We had a season preview/week 0 combo edition of College Gameday this morning. The crew was in the studio this morning and Corso didn’t make an appearance, but here’s the picks from Herbie, Des and Pat. Week 0 picks are on top and season predictions are at the bottom.
Kirk Herbstreit:
Vanderbilt over Hawaii
San Diego State over Ohio
New Mexico State over Massachusetts
Notre Dame over Navy
Desmond Howard:
Hawaii over Vanderbilt
San Diego State over Ohio
New Mexico State over Massachusetts
Notre Dame over Navy
Pat McAfee:
Hawaii over Vanderbilt
Ohio over San Diego State
New Mexico State over Massachusetts
Notre Dame over Navy
Preseason predictions:
Kirk Herbstreit: Tulane as best G5 team Clemson to win ACC Ohio State to win Big 10 Texas to win Big 12 Utah to win Pac 12 Alabama to win SEC Playoff teams: Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia National champion: Alabama over Ohio State
Desmond Howard: Tulane as best G5 team FSU to win ACC Michigan to win Big 10 Texas to win Big 12 Washington to win Pac 12 Alabama to win SEC Playoff teams: Alabama, FSU, Michigan, Texas National champion: Michigan over Alabama
Pat McAfee: UTSA as best G5 team Clemson to win ACC Ohio State to win Big 10 Texas to win Big 12 Utah to win Pac 12 Alabama to win SEC Playoff teams: Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia National champion: Alabama over Georgia
Over the years since I started this blog, I’ve tracked a lot of picks. I track straight up picks, picks against the spread, and most recently started grading money line picks since the last couple of years the “money line sprinkle” is all the craze. Most years I post a writeup up preseason predictions but don’t track it in any meaningful way. It is mostly for fun so we can go back after the season and see how absurd some people’s predictions were.
As I patiently await the season preview for 2021, I looked over the odds. Alabama’s odds have already shortened from +325 to +300. Two other top-five teams including Georgia and Oklahoma, saw their odds fade slightly. Clemson and Ohio State are steady as a rock at the moment. I’m not a futures bettor so I couldn’t tell you who I like. But I compiled a list of the College Gameday analysts’ preseason predictions to do a little analysis.
I know TV analysts are in the business of generating buzz. Let’s face it: it is boring if they all choose Alabama or Clemson to win in the preseason. However, sometimes they can get a little too cute with their preseason picks, so I wondered what it would look like if we took the College Gameday crew’s preseason predictions and used them as futures bets. Would anybody show a profit?
For our experiment, we took the preseason playoff predictions from Lee Corso, Kirk Herbstreit and Desmond Howard for examination. First, each preseason championship prediction for the playoff era is treated as a $100 futures bet and we calculate losses and profits. Second, we also took all four playoff picks and treated them each as a $100 futures bet since most people bet more than one team in the futures. Let’s see how things compare. Historical futures odds are courtesy of sportsoddshistory.com.
2020
Championship Pick
Runner Up
Semifinal
Semifinal
Lee Corso
Alabama+300
Clemson+200
Oklahoma+1200
Notre Dame+1600
Kirk Herbstreit
Clemson+200
Alabama+300
Texas+1600
Florida
Desmond Howard
Alabama+300
Clemson+200
Cincinnati+100000
Oklahoma+1200
2019
Lee Corso
Alabama+250
Utah+4000
Clemson+250
Ohio State+1600
Kirk Herbstreit
Alabama+250
Clemson+250
Texas+2500
Ohio State+1600
Desmond Howard
Clemson+250
Georgia+250
Wisconsin+30000
Oregon+4000
2018
Lee Corso
Wisconsin+2000
Clemson+400
Washington+1500
Georgia+600
Kirk Herbstreit
Alabama+175
Clemson+400
Washington+1500
Penn State+2500
Desmond Howard
Michigan+1000
Alabama+175
West Virginia+6000
Clemson+400
2017
Lee Corso
Southern Cal+700
Alabama+250
Ohio State+300
Florida State+800
Kirk Herbstreit
Ohio State+300
Alabama+250
Southern Cal+700
Florida State+800
Desmond Howard
Stanford+5000
Alabama+250
Wisconsin+2000
Miami (FL)+6000
2016
Lee Corso
LSU+800
Michigan+800
Florida State+700
Oklahoma+1200
Kirk Herbstreit
Clemson+700
Alabama+600
Ohio State+800
TCU+3000
Desmond Howard
Clemson+700
LSU+800
Stanford+2500
Michigan+800
2015
Lee Corso
LSU+2000
Ohio State+250
Oregon+2000
Baylor+800
Kirk Herbstreit
Ohio State+250
LSU+2000
Oklahoma+3000
Arizona State+20000
Desmond Howard
Stanford+3000
TCU+600
Michigan State+2000
Texas A&M+10000
2014
Lee Corso
UCLA+1000
Florida State+300
Michigan State+2500
Alabama+450
Kirk Herbstreit
Florida State+300
Alabama+450
Michigan State+2500
UCLA+1000
Desmond Howard
UCLA+1000
Georgia+1800
Florida State+300
Wisconsin+3000
As we look at each analysts’ year by year championship picks, we see some people going out on a limb with their picks on occasion. Does this show a better profit than sticking to chalk? The “cutest” championship predictions in the playoff era are:
Lee Corso picking Wisconsin+2000 and Desmond Howard picking Michigan+1000 in 2018
Desmond Howard picking Stanford+5000 in 2017
Desmond Howard picking Stanford+3000 in 2015
Lee Corso and Desmond Howard both picking UCLA+1000 in 2014
Kirk pretty much picks chalk every year. Clemson, Alabama, Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Ohio State, Florida State. That’s the preseason favorite 5 out 7 years. He went out on a limb the other two years and picked the 2nd favorite.
If you bet $100 on the preseason odds-on favorite every year at close, you’d be down $50 over 7 seasons.
2020: 200 (Clemson+200)
2019: -100 (take your pick, Bama or Clemson+250)
2018: -100 (Alabama+175)
2017: 250 (Alabama+250)
2016: -100 (Alabama+600)
2015: -100 (Ohio State+250)
2014: -100 (Florida State+300)
If you bet $100 on each Gameday analyst’s preseason pick the results would be the following:
Lee Corso
Kirk Herbstreit
Desmond Howard
2020
300
-100
300
2019
-100
-100
-100
2018
-100
-100
-100
2017
-100
-100
-100
2016
-100
700
700
2015
-100
-100
-100
2014
-100
-100
-100
Total
-300
100
500
If we took the second approach and used each analysts’ final four predictions as a $100 futures bet, the results are below:
Payout:
Lee Corso
Kirk Herbstreit
Desmond Howard
2020
0
0
0
2019
-400
-400
-400
2018
100
100
100
2017
-50
-50
-50
2016
-400
400
400
2015
-400
-400
-400
2014
-400
-400
-400
Total
-1550
-750
-750
So what does this all mean? Betting straight favorites results in a small loss. It appears betting the Gameday analysts’ final four is disastrous. Don’t do it. They took a handful of crazy long shots (Cincinnati+100000? Texas A&M+10000?) which seem much more likely to generate buzz than value. Desmond Howard profited the most betting ONLY championship picks at $500 while Kirk Herbstreit profited $100. Lee Corso lost $300 betting his pick each season. The profit for Desmond and Kirk comes entirely from Clemson+700 in 2016. In hindsight, it seems obvious that picking anyone outside of the playoff blue bloods is suicidal. LSU+2500 in 2019 is the lone exception, and it is hard to call them a true dark horse. I guess all I could say is, pay attention to Desmond Howard if he sticks to chalk in his 2021 prediction. Kirk Herbstreit will definitely stick to chalk, but that won’t profit you much. Don’t go out on a limb and bet a bunch on Texas, or throw your money away on Michigan, or pick Arizona State as a dark horse. And as much as I hate to say it, don’t bet on Lee Corso’s preseason prediction.
Welcome back everyone. We are officially kicking opening the 2018-19 season around here with the College Gameday Season Preview! You’ll find the preseason predictions from Lee Corso, Kirk Herbstreit, and Desmond Howard below. We’ll be bringing you a little more preseason coverage today and tomorrow, but starting this week we will be posting the regular weekly picks until we crown a champion in January.
Lee Corso:
Trace McSorley for early Heisman favorite
Clemson over Miami (FL) in ACC Championship
Wisconsin over Penn State in Big 10 Championship
Texas over Oklahoma in Big 12 Championship
Washington over USC in Pac 12 Championship
Georgia over Alabama in SEC Championship
UCF as best G5 team
CFB Playoff: Clemson vs Washington, Wisconsin vs Georgia
Clemson vs Wisconin in CFB Championship
Wisconsin to win CFB Championship
Kirk Herbstreit:
Trace McSorley for early Heisman favorite
Clemson over Miami (FL) in ACC Championship
Penn State over Wisconsin in Big 10 Championship
Oklahoma over TCU in Big 12 Championship
Washington over Utah in Pac 12 Championship
Alabama over Georgia in SEC Championship
Boise State as best G5 team
CFB Playoff: Alabama vs Washington, Clemson vs Penn State
Clemson vs Alabama in CFB Championship
Alabama to win CFB Championship
Desmond Howard:
Bryce love for early Heisman favorite
Clemson over Miami (FL) in ACC Championship
Michigan over Wisconsin in Big 10 Championship
WVU over Oklahoma in Big 12 Championship
Washington over USC in Pac 12 Championship
Alabama over South Carolina in SEC Championship
UCF as best G5 team
CFB Playoff: Michigan vs WVU, Alabama vs Clemson
Michigan vs Alabama in CFB Championship
Michigan to win CFB Championship
@GamedayJen:
Clemson to win ACC
Penn State to win Big 10
TCU to win Big 12
Washington to win Pac 12
Alabama to win SEC
Alabama vs Penn State, Clemson vs Washington in CFB Playoff (potentially TCU instead of Penn State)
Alabama vs Clemson in CFB Championship
Clemson to win CFB Championship